Vivia Chen
, The American Lawyer, @lawcareerist

Why Hillary's Loss Feels So Painful to Women Lawyers


For all those women out there who've played by the rule book, Hillary's loss feels distinctly personal. For women lawyers, particularly, she was one of our own.

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  • Vicki

    Hillary played by the rules and was the most qualified? Don‘t think so. She has no executive experience and her time in the Senate and as Secretary of State was unremarkable - and - she peddled her influence to boot - doesn‘t anyone understand her deal with Morrocco? It‘s pay to play - can‘t get much clearer than that. The Democratic Primary was an absolute joke - Bernie never had a chance - the DNC rigged it all in her favor - she knew and did nothing (why would she?) Why did they even bother? And Sarah Silverman at the convention calling the Democratic primary “exemplary” and then insulting Bernie‘s supporters by calling them ridiculous - Doesn‘t character matter to anyone?? All the celebrities in the world couldn‘t help Hillary. She lost because she failed to relate to the rest of the country that can‘t afford to pony up $30k a plate to have dinner with her - she scares the crap out of common people who work for a living - spouting off about the evils of coal and how she was gonna shut it all down - without telling those people (who would lose their sole source of support) what she was going to replace it with so they could continue to survive. Not everyone wants to be dependent on the government. Was that intelligent? No, that was arrogant. Bill tried to warn her, but she wouldn‘t listen to him. I blame the DNP for Trump - common people just couldn‘t stomach Hillary and he was the only alternative.

  • grannybunny

    Don‘t let the naysayers discourage you. I absolutely agree, as would most women lawyers. My adult son noted after the election that 2008 and 2016 convinced him that discrimination against women in our society is even harder to overcome that discrimination against African-Americans. No one would even consider chanting "lock him up" regarding Colin Powell, who also used a private email account to conduct State Department business.

  • Guy McClung

    And this is true about ALL women lawyers? Would a journalist have included the word "some" in the article‘s title?

  • Ron B.

    I‘m shocked that anyone agrees with this author. Hillary is incapable of telling the truth. She and her husband are kleptocrats, who sold government influence in order to personally line their pockets to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. Hillary had 8 completely undistinguished years in the Senate, followed by four disastrous years as Secretary of State. In the latter post, she and Obama were shown to be weak and incompetent. Putin took advantage of the ill-conceived "reset" to take over a huge chunk of Ukraine. Our allies in Eastern Europe were left to twist in the wind. Revolts against leaders of Arab allies were encouraged, while revolts against Iran and other enemies were discouraged. Libya was overthrown and left to the wolves, red lines were crossed in Syria with no consequence. And then we have the hubris, lies and cover ups concerning the private server where Hillary elevated her own privacy over the security interests of her country. Trump might be a public bully, but Hillary does plenty of bullying in private to those who work for her. However, despite this awful record, according to this author, Hillary was rejected just because she was female. Really? How does an article like this even get published? How does an apparently intelligent person pick out the one reason for her loss that had nothing to do with it? In addition to Hillary‘s incompetence and disregard of the law, these false narratives and crying jags over non-existent issues are also a part of the reason someone like Trump was able to win.

  • Jessica P.

    Incoherent nonsense from a lazy columnist who would rather cry onto a page than go do real reporting. Not why I pay for a subscription.

  • E Leigh Dance, President, ELD International LLC

    Thumbs up!! Thanks Vivia!

  • Chris Bosken

    Whether or not someone who "plays by the rule book" feels like Hillary is one of their own, Hillary most assuredly did not play the rule book countless times, most glaringly with her unauthorized private email server. Perhaps if Hillary had followed the rules, had not set up her own private email server for conducting government business, and had not lied countless times regarding this scheme, the outcome of the election would have been different. On the other hand 8 years ago Hillary lost the primary to an equally unqualified opponent Barack Obama. Then, as now, you might not hear anyone asking why wasn‘t she more qualified. (Nevermind the fact that many people have questioned her actual accomplishments in the supposedly qualifying positions Hillary has held.)

  • Shirl Morrigan

    Vivia, you really hit the nail on the head. I am so sad. This makes me remember all the (minor) things that happened to me on my journey to equity partner in BigLaw. Thanks for making it so clear. Shirl Morrigan

  • Elbert

    Boo-hoo. :)

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